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Author Topic: Fei Long: Bruce Lee or Fei Long? (Reunions)  (Read 2399 times)
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« on: January 06, 2009, 09:52:20 PM »

Its Pretty Obvious why Fei Long Was Created (Out of the Popular Movie Star and Martial Artist Bruce Lee) and I was wondering what the Plan was for Fei Long?

Would you use Authentic Bruce Lee Teachings and Make Him a Teacher that was competing and Rebelling against the Other Martial Arts.
To be on television alot as a Side view

Or what would you do with him?

I've had a lot of Ideas about him,
Like Every other Major Fighting Style trying to stop him out of Fear of taking away students, money and Control.
Him Eventually Getting Outcasted and Training a Gang to be his personal underground Army to fight off the assasination attempts

Or in general he give everyone advice on fighting, and everyone understand What he's Talking about but for whatever reason they Don't Change and telling them they are too Slow.

While in the start of each episode
-When naming What Episode it is, It will show a different Fei Long Movie on M Bisons TV.

Example:
Title-"A Windy Day for The Red Cyclone"
WHat is on M. Bisons TV-Fei Long in a Red Suit and a Mask Fighting off Tons of Minions.


I really Love Bruce Lee, And I'd almost rather see Bruce Lee portrayed then a Fei Long
-I respect his Philosophies very much because they make a lot of Sense to me. Speed, Be Direct, Don't Fall into Paterns, Trickyness, improvision.
--THe Trickyness can be shown through the Fake Hadouken featured in HD Remix.
-However, Knowing this is going to be a Street Fighter Series, I would at least like to see you pay homage to who Fei Long Really is.

Because Fei Long isn't Fei Long
Fei Long is meant to be Bruce Lee with a different Name
-"there could never be another legend like the great one and his son"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fei_Long
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee

I just wanted to Throw that out there....

I'm just throwing that out there,
And giving him a daughter and a son that does martial arts wouldn't hurt either, just to drive the point home... (Though Probably shouldn't use the same names)

I'm sure everybody wants to see their character in, and I wouldn't say Fei Long would be in every episode except for the Opening Themes, Where Cameos of rare characters are usually thrown around like candy anyway...
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2009, 06:28:39 AM »

You raise some great points as well as some valuable suggestions.

Our upcoming take om Fei Long will naturally find him in the present along with all his other surviving Street Fighter cohorts. First we must address the issue of tribute to Bruce Lee. One might argue that a role intended as a tribute to an enduring legend could, by its very nature, never be portrayed by its superior muse. However, if it were actually possible to cast Bruce Lee as Fei Long, who would say no? I certainly wouldn't and only he could elevate the role to the very standards to which it pays homage. On the other hand, in the case of The Green Hornet, you have an already iconic character who predates the actor now most famous for playing him. To actually cast Bruce Lee as Kato is one of those rare opportunities that seem too good to be true but, nevertheless, actually happened to the delight of all of us. That 20th Century Fox squandered that opportunity and failed to realize the greatness they had in their possession is another great topic to discuss entirely and speaks volumes about how little television executives really understand about their own medium (we're battling it out even now with TV insiders who want to recast our Street Fighter Reunion series with A-list actors). Some castings just feel right on so many levels. I remember a camera test I was scheduled to do for a film and, while I was waiting in the green room to go on, out of the testing room and down the hall looking through the window into the green room as he passed was a very familiar face. He also recognized me instantly and I finally got to meet this fine actor in person after having enjoyed his work so much. It was none other than Nick Raio and, during the course of our conversation, he informed me that Sam Reich had just cast him as Colonel William F. Guile in "Street Fighter: The Later Years". I was ecstatic! Not only did this mean I'd actually get to have him as a co-star on our own series, it also struck me how brilliant a casting decision it was on Sam's part to feature him as Guile! I never would have thought of that and yet, today, I'm not alone when I say that it's become hard to think of anybody else in the role now, even with studio executives trying to tell us that he's not right for the part. Nick Raio made the role uniquely his own just as Bruce Lee's performance as Kato overshadowed those of all the other Katos who came before him.

Because of this, it seems impossible to present Fei Long even today without, in some way, paralleling what night have happened with Bruce's career had he survived up until now. Therefore, although Fei Long had abandoned his movie career years ago for active competition in the worldwide Street Fighter circuit, we will depict his legend as having grown so huge over the ensuing years that the draw of Hollywood was just too great and offers made too generous to resist that, by 2009, he is already firmly re-established in the Hollywood movie star firmament. This paramount (pardon the pun) position leaves him a seemingly easy target for those who desire to usurp his exalted status both in show business and within the world of martial arts. He will also be seen, just as you suggest, as a threat to some very dangerous and powerful characters in the business of martial arts.

Fei Long was a good friend and ally to Chun Li's father and, to this day, is possessed of a proprietary interest in Chun Li's well being. And, although Chun Li herself is actually trying to make peace with M. Bison, who killed her father, and Bison with her since Rose enabled him to have another chance at earthly life on the promise that he try to change his ways, Fei Long still regards M. Bison as a sworn enemy and this could cause serious troubles along the way.

As far as the idea of Bruce Lee being portrayed in place of Fei Long is concerned, that might have been pretty awesome. Imagine Bruce Lee himself as a Street Fighter staple. Of course it would probably have the same balance shifting effect that, say, having Elvis Presley as a regular character in an otherwise fictitious rock group would have; being far too much bigger than life to be even fiction. However, it would still be feasible if done correctly and it reminds me of a 1995 Q magazine interview with the newly reunited Beatles who were enjoying the success of their new hit records and television miniseries. After Paul and George explained the reasons why The Beatles reunion was to be only temporary, George said, "The Beatles exist without us". That was profound and made me realize that the popular Beatles TV series that I used to watch as a kid during the height of the first wave of Beatlemania had the Fab Four portrayed by other actors. "Yellow Submarine", one of my all-time favorite movies, also featured other actors as Beatles, although the genuine article appear themselves at the end of the film. I also recalled that Al Brodax was planning the sequel to it in 1985, five years after Lennon's assassination, to be called "Strawberry Fields Forever". The movie was never produced but the sheer fact that it could have been made me realize that the persona born of the legend who creates it can endure beyond the actual life of its inspiration. Such could still happen with Bruce Lee and, in some noteworthy martial arts movie epics, actually does.

We will see to it, however, that Fei Long, as presented in "Reunion", always echoes faithfully the source that gave him life; a life that will take him through time and culture in a way that might actually have been experienced by Bruce Lee himself had he survived.

Keep an eye on us and always let us know if you ever think we swerve too much from the path, Formula 1, okay?

Thanks!
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 10:31:37 PM »

 Cheesy
I'm glad you're the one I get to keep in contact with:)

If Bruce Lee was Fei Long, I'm sure He might be a little ANgry unless he had plenty of Side projects going on at the same time
I remember watching one of his Biographies saying that when "The green Hornet" vs "Batman" came around he was pissed off because in the script he was supposed to lose.
And Rightfully so, the guy was treated a second rate martial Artist...

Either way, he would probably want a bigger role in the series then just once in a while,
Unless he was doing stuff on the side, where he'd probably only do these things for fun (if he saw it as fun)

It would be pretty awesome though....
That authentic "Haza!" "Aow.........."
Reminded me of the Raptors of jurassic park... They were kind of cute and observant, but Vicious and quick when they started attacking (The Kitchen scene is a great example of that)

He'd clearly be the Cockyest yet humblest Street Fighter out of them.... A weird yet understandable combination... A cocky teacher...

I would say, he would be the guy that hits on Chun Li, and Chun Li, knowing he's a movie star would be enfatuated, Then Ken would get all upset.... And CHun Li would say as if to be hurt by the comments "We were just talking......".
But I don't think that would be putting him in the kind of light he deserves.
Though it could be the difference between Fei Long and Bruce Lee.... But I'd rather not have that happen...
If Anything, I'd rather talk to his Daughter/wife about it so that Bruce Lee can be portrayed in the Most Truthful Light possible when it came to Groupies and how he dealt with them.



But yeah,
If I start Seeing Fei Long being anything but a philosopher, a martial Artist, a family man or a movie star
http://www.sighost.org/sigs/bruce%20Lee.jpg
I'll let you know

I don't want Fei Long to "evolve" his character
Or have last minute changes to who he is.

Though making him exciting is necessary as a simple fact for Television, he needs to be Bruce Lee Exciting, not Fei Long Exciting
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 12:16:31 AM »

Character evolution, just as in life with real people, is probably unavoidable. For instance, the Bruce Lee I knew as a child differs significantly from the Bruce Lee I came to know in my early adolescence. The almost unbridled cockiness of his youth and alleged disrespect for the rigid discipline and traditional ways of his masters appeared to have been tempered by a sense of professionalism by the time of The Green Hornet in 1966. Even then, however, ego could still get in the way. Bruce's incredulity over the script that had Robin defeating Kato, when Batman and the Hornet clashed, caused him to threaten to walk off the show! Then again, because Lee's amazing prowess heightened Kato's stature and reputation even beyond the expectation of the character, it became hard to tell where Lee ended and Kato began. Having vested his character with so much of his own skills would, I imagine, have put his own reputation as a martial artist on the line right alongside that of Kato's. Therefore, the usual rule of separating the actor from the character, in this instance alone, perhaps, might not have applied here so I suppose I should cut him some slack. Besides, realistically, Robin's martial arts skills, although nearly unbeatable, would still not have been expected to rise to the level of one Hayashi Kato. Even during the 1930s and 40s Kato was thought to be invincible.

Then came the 1970s, of course, and the Bruce Lee I began to see more and more of in interviews seemed now more tempered by wisdom and a deeper understanding of not only himself but of the world around him. Fei Long has been depicted earlier in his career as having had a similar cockiness to that of Bruce Lee at roughly the same point in his life. Although TJ and I might not be among the writers when the time comes to bring Fei Long into the story (we've got ten of 'em and counting), I can only imagine his maturing over time and being less likely to be goaded into a match motivated by pride and a challenge from an even cockier Ken Masters, who, by all accounts, hasn't really changed all that much.

Every one of us has feet of clay and, just as the usually centered, pious and spiritually grounded Dhalsim found himself losing control with a passenger (who turned out to be Zangief) while he was driving a cab, so Fei Long will be tested physically, spiritually, morally and even philosophically at times by forces outside of his control. Besides, shaking a stolid and highly principled character out of his dignified tree is a staple of comedy and hard to resist.

Either way, just like Bruce Lee himself, Fei Long will likely have a lot of irons in the fire since he's so much in demand worldwide. This will certainly keep him always both engaged and engaging. I'm looking forward to his debut in "Street Fighter Reunion".
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 12:29:45 PM »

yeah but this is it, the Development/evolution of the characters is the Whole point of 'street fighter: the later years'  just like the 'Before they were famous shows' its a 'where are they now' if ya kept the characters the same ....it'd be...Street Fighter... the Street fighter Years?
exapmle:
Zangief - Janitor in an arcade
Vega - failed soap actor
M.Bison - old man in a wheel chair

and what with Fei long being a Blatant homage to Mr Lee, you can really have some fun with him! especially when he's a pretty minor character in the SF storyline. Personally, i think having fei as a synical old geezer'd be really funny, cant wait too see how you're going to take it ^^  Especially T.Hawk, you gotta admit, he's a pretty funny character to begin with.

Cheers all,

good luck with 'SF : Reunion' Cant wait to see, really Buzzed since hearing the news^^

Peace out

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 03:48:59 PM »

There ya go. The basic premise of "Street Fighter: TLY" was, in the first season, a "whatever became of..." joke and, naturally, it can only play out with the initial re-introduction of each character into the series and then you've gotta move on from there. Thankfully, for the premise, there will be so many SF characters ahead to bring into the 21st century that the joke will get some more mileage (just wait'll you see what's become of Sakura and the gags we've got in store for R. Mika, for example).

The second season centered its humor more on the experience of having played the video game, and its story more squarely on the Street Fighters' journey out of retirement and back into the fighting arena.

"Street Fighter Reunion", on the other hand, will focus its humor more directly onto the characters themselves along with their outrageous backstories and their relationships to each other. The story and plots will simply take the opportunity, presented to the Street Fighters, of their return to the tournaments and use it as the springboard for a limitless series of action packed comedy adventures, the only difference from their 1990s versions being that these are the Street Fighters as seen in 2009; for exmple a pot bellied Guile, a longer haired Ryu with his now classic white streak on one side and the new UFC look Zangief in his fifties now with white in the chin of his beard.

Norinaga makes a great point of the fact that here is a man of almost mythological proportions such as Fei Long who is idolized even by Ken & Ryu but who, nevertheless, is somehow marginalized by the other World Warriors when on the Street Fighter circuit. Maybe security can give him a hard time about allowing him access to the locker rooms of different cities (might as well start a running gag somewhere) or maybe one of his movie directors shows up at one of his tournament fights and yells, "CUT!", out of habit, causing his opponent to land the victory blow. So many possibilities here when you're faced with a character of so much repute.
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